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Thank You Sojourners For Speaking Up – Shame On The GOP!

From CNN’s Belief Blog…

A coalition of progressive Christian leaders has taken out a full-page ad that asks “What would Jesus cut?” in Monday’s edition of Politico, the opening salvo in what the leaders say will be a broader campaign to prevent cuts for the poor and international aid programs amid the budget battle raging in Washington.

“They’re talking about cutting bed nets for malaria and leaving every piece of military spending untouched,” said the Rev. Jim Wallis, who leads the Christian group Sojourners, referring to Republican spending proposals for the rest of this year.

“Are we saying that every piece of military equipment is more important than bed nets, children’s health and nutrition for low-income families?” said Wallis, whose group paid for Monday’s ad. “If so they should be ashamed of themselves.”

Amen! I often get very discouraged that there are no reasonable Christians left in this country and it is refreshing to see this campaign “What would Jesus cut?” and the full page ad that Sojourners has taken out. Click on the image for a larger version.

Steve Benen, as usual, gets the Hat tip for this story, here is a little from his post…

What’s more, it’s worth noting that it’s not just Sojourners speaking out. Faith in Public Life is also helping organize related efforts with a similar message.

“How we balance our national budget is first of all a moral question. That we must do so is clear. But the bible says God measures societies by what they do to the people on the bottom,” said Dr. Ron Sider, founder and president of Evangelicals for Social Action.

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March 5, 2011 - Posted by | Economy, Politics |

8 Comments »

  1. Are you a fan of Jesus?

    What do you mean by “reasonable Christians”?

    Comment by Mitchell | March 5, 2011 | Reply

  2. Jesus has fans now? I’ve read the words attributed to him several times and think he said a lot of great stuff. He was compassionate, caring, loving, peaceful not vengeful or a hater in any way. So yea, I would say I’m a fan.

    By reasonable Christian I mean the opposite of the “Westboro Baptist Church” type of Christian or the people who wrap themselves in the Christian label but embrace policies that hurt people…are selfish and not at all what I understand as Christian principles.

    Comment by ExtremeLiberal | March 5, 2011 | Reply

  3. Hey, come on dude, you actually think that WBC reflects the majority of Christians? But what about the Christians who are against some aspects of abortion or who defend marriage? Are they hurting people?

    Im sure there are lots of policies out there that “hurt” people. So that is not a strong argument.

    I just don’t like it when someone (not necessarily you) promotes the helping of the poor and other causes but completely ignores the other teachings of Christ.

    Seems disingenuous to make Christ how you want him instead of how He is.

    And Christians are of the most charitable people there are. Not just giving to the church but to secular organizations as well. Liberals on the other hand are some of the least charitable.

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2682730&page=1

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1759256/posts

    So I guess what I am saying is, you seem to be picking and choosing what teachings of Jesus to follow. He wanted us to follow all of them.

    a lot of people on the left say they are being good Christians because support social programs but they completely ignore the rest of Christ’s teachings. Don’t see how that is a good example of a Christian do you?

    Thank you for letting me comment, hope I don’t seem hostile.

    Comment by Mitchell | March 5, 2011 | Reply

    • Hmmmm,

      Where did I say WBC “reflects the majority of Christians?” Where? God I hope they WBC doesn’t represent but a few deranged people…but the media attention they get is huge, unfortunately.

      “But what about Christians who are against..etc.” What about them, I didn’t say anything about them. I guess I should ask if you read the piece or not, it was about cutting programs for women, children, and the needy. This post is about the budget that was proposed. I wasn’t delving into any of those nice social issues.

      The policies I was referring to that hurt people are giving huge tax breaks to the people who are doing the best in our country and cutting out the safety net we’ve created in this country for the last 80 plus years that helps people who are struggling. The selfishness comes in not giving a shit about these people and wanting more for themselves. Christian values? Kind of the opposite from what I know, maybe I’m completely wrong about Christ, maybe he is a vengeful dude, not wanting to give no handouts to those poor folks.

      As far as picking and choosing teachings of Christ…uh, if you have some passages you want to refer to where Christ is a conservative, bigoted, elitist, greedy person please, provide them. That would be interesting to read. I wasn’t actually cracking open the whole issue of religion in this post, but rather about how religious folks don’t speak out much for the poor in politics and in fact are often supporting the Republicans who are surely trying to cut those programs. That’s what Republicans do.

      You are very right that a lot of Christians are very generous to their churches and sometimes to other charities as well, that’s awesome. But to me that is where the hypocrisy comes in…they may be charitable with their church and what it does for the community but then the turn around a vote for a politician who is fighting against what the church is trying to do, help the poor, homeless, whatever it is.

      That’s why I enjoyed seeing Sojourners coming out and saying something, I can’t remember the last time a religious group spoke out on a national level about the plight of the poor. I’m not saying it hasn’t happened, but it sure isn’t in the news as much as WBC.

      Comment by ExtremeLiberal | March 5, 2011 | Reply

  4. Hi, I just didn’t see the point in mentioning WBC since they are obviously not mainstream.

    I did read your post but only your writing, I didn’t click on any links.

    My issue was that Christians are not just focused on one aspect of the bible. ie helping the poor. That is automatic. We do it at church and outside the church. But I feel that it should be done out of love and willingness not by force in the form of taxation. The latter would not even be considered charitable imo.

    I as a Christian believe in helping others. I volunteered at the Salvation Army for over a year. But I also am pro-life because I believe the bible teaches me that. Should I let go of one teaching to focus on the other? That is not sensible. I do both and it does not make me less Christian (not suggesting you think that).

    You say that Republicans don’t care about the poor, maybe you are right. But not caring for the poor and disagreeing with how they are cared for is another argument. I care about the poor, but I don’t want larger government and higher taxes to do it.

    Like I said before, the reason I and some other Christians don’t speak out for the poor is because it is such an obvious teaching. We just don’t like the method of “caring” for them.

    The bible says that if a man does not work, he does not eat. Now of course there are circumstances like disability, elderly, etc that are exceptions. But I don’t believe in welfare. I think it enables people not to work. We could look at studies to see if it is beneficial?

    No, the church is not being hypocritical. You just seem to want them to be the way you want. They have to be how the bible teaches them to be. I would NEVER vote for someone who wants to set up more social programs (more gov) to “help the poor.” Not if they are pro-choice, and oppose other biblical teachings. That is picking and choosing and in my opinion wrong.

    But fyi, I don’t get involved in politics.

    And like I said, the poor people who are religious and NOT on welfare are the most giving people in America. Not the left-leaning elitists who claim to be. So again I cannot respeect a politician who screams about getting more help to the poor an then evades taxes that pay for it.

    Please check out the links I provided and see if you think that the progressives truly want to help the poor.

    AND, lets say Christians do start helping the poor more, not via gov but on their own. All that will happen is people on the left will bitch that the Christians just want to indoctrinate the poor not help them. So we just cannot win no matter what we do.

    And as Christians we are not allowed to brag about the help we do. There are lots of Christians helping in other countries to get clean water, food, education, medicine, build homes, etc, etc.

    Christians are often the first ones in and the last to leave a disaster area. And they aren’t just looking to increase heaven’s population.

    Thanks for discussing. Hope I made my points clear and I apologize if I misread any of yours.

    M

    Comment by Mitchell | March 5, 2011 | Reply

  5. We just need to get away from that give a man food and he will eat for a day, teach him to grow food “work at a job” and he will eat forever. We need to help the helpless but encourage those who can work to work. The entitlement society is the biggest problem this country faces and we have a president who will buy those votes at any cost.

    Comment by atlanta ralph | March 7, 2011 | Reply

    • And when the private sector doesn’t create those jobs, we let them starve, right?

      We know how you think, Ralph, and it doesn’t ever seem to take into account starving children or homeless families or mentally impaired people or disabled people or the working poor or….

      Comment by ExtremeLiberal | March 7, 2011 | Reply

  6. The great society that was created by the damocraps under LBJ has caused more poverty than any single event in history. The leftists say the want to help the poor when in reality they want to keep the poor, poor because it meets their objective.

    If the leftists were sincere in helping the poor they would stress achievement and school instead of more handouts. In most cases poverty is voluntary and the leftists want to keep it that way.

    Comment by atlanta ralph | March 7, 2011 | Reply


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